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Lee Cronin talked about some of this on the Lex Fridman podcast recently.
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#404 – Lee Cronin: Controversial Nature Paper on Evolution of Life and Universe
with Lee Cronin
Lee Cronin
Episodes featuring Lee Cronin as a guest
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Highly recommends the Lex Fridman episode with Lee Cronin on the origins of life and complexity theory; it changed the commenter's view of life and the universe.
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#269 – Lee Cronin: Origin of Life, Aliens, Complexity, and Consciousness
with Lee Cronin